FRACCHIONI AUDIO: should play with any operating system. Turn up the volume.

Conversations with Ferruccio and Romano on our visit with them in Beamsville, Canada in September 2013.

Present were Carolyn and Vinny Tuccio, and Linda and I along with Ferrucio's Daughter-in-law, Anna. They were in Canada because his son was drug addicted and they had to leave the U.S.

The audio listed opposite is in the accurate time line of when recorded.

There was more discussion about the Pacchiana's that may or may not be on the audio. The village in the photos from Casa Fracchioni is Borgo Moresco which is where the Pacchiana's lived. Also, it was said that Carlo Pacchiana gave $ to son Nino to open the music store.

1. Audio: Discussion of a Carlo Pacchiana. After the Bugliolis' left, Carolina wrote to brother Giovani to sell property and give the money to Carlo to bring to her. Peter & Battista [brothers] drove to Milan to give the $$ to someone from NY [Carlo??] to bring to Carolina and Giuseppe.

2. Audio: Romano describes his wife; Frank [Ferruccio] has diabetes; his mother had four sons.

3. Audio: Battista, Giovani, and Pietro are Carolina's brothers; she had one sister- Louisa; 3 boys, 2 girls. Giovani son Peppino. Louisa had 5 girls.

4. Audio: Santino is Romano's name- Why change?

5. Audio: Lou Russo- club in Bronx [Van Nest Club?]; Glen Island Casino. Romano and Frank talk of working for Trump Sr. He told them “Don't do like me!” he lost family. Once he swapped flag on top of building with Italian Flag.

6. Audio: Frank and Romano talk of jobs with Trump; Wife, Marla Maples; They were very close to Trump family.

7. Audio: The Ferri's [Carolina's mother]; Pacchiana- Ernestine; They don't like Napolitano or Torino...

8. Audio: Grandaughter; Anna [married to his son]

9. Audio: Houses in Italy; Simona is a partner- all Fracchioni's own; can't sell alone.?

10. Audio: Asked how did Carolina meet Giuseppe? Live 25 mile apart; walk with cow; danced all the time; bring vegetables; Van Nest Club- Romano Uncle danced with glass of water and didn't spill.

11. Audio: Smuggling; Italian on Italian crime; Mafia; smuggling through Michigan; Stories about Al Capone; Cuba.